Q&A with Nina Hagen
San Francisco Chronicle Datebook - June 19, 1994
By Michael Snyder
Typed by Hagenpaws
In 1976, when the Berlin Wall was still an international flash point,
eccentric 21-year-old Nina Hagen crossed from East Berlin to West Berlin.
Within a year, the woman with the gymnastic, near-operatic voice - a vision
in leather and rubber wear and exaggerated makeup - had turned the German
pop music scene on its ear. Hagen’s first album was greeted by accolades in
the British press. In America, she built a loyal cult of fans with her
spiritualist/hedonist cabaret sensibility and her strange mélange of styles,
from punk and reggae to techno and blues. She also rang up a few dance-club
hits such as “New York, New York.” Last year, she recorded her eighth album,
“Revolution Ballroom,” produced by Roxy Music's Phil Manzanera. Hagen, who
was recently in town to participate in the Goethe Institute-sponsored
tribute to Weimar Republic poet/dancer/prostitute Anita Berber, returns with
her band July 12-13 to headline at Bimbo’s. Recently, she spoke by phone
from Hamburg, where she was on the tail end of a European concert tour. She
had just played a pop festival outside of the city.
Q: “Revolution Ballroom” has a couple of songs with a heavy Indian
influence. How did you develop your interest in Indian religion and culture?
A: When I was 19, I got my initiation. I took LSD and had a death
experience. I met God. I found a book about a guru known as Babaji, who
first appeared in public in the early ‘70s at the age of 20 and died in 1984
on Valentine’s Day. I made a pilgrimage to the village in the Himalayas
where he lived. His message was that all religions are equal. All human
beings and cultures are equal. The idea is living in respect and harmony
with everything around you. But his teachings were in my heart before I read
his work.
Q: When’s your next album coming out?
A: I have a new record-company deal with RCA. I can produce myself. I did it
on my first two albums. And I can choose my own co-producer. I really
respect Phil Manzanera, but I think the last album was overproduced. Things
were too much controlled by the record company. They tried to turn me into a
product. I can do it myself. I’m like the Grateful Dead: I’ll always be
there.
Q: Backed by Alphabet Soup at the Anita Berber tribute, you performed a
number of new songs co-written by Dee Dee Ramone. Are you doing them with
your own band?
A: Yes, they’re much better now. They’ll be on my next album. (The Anita
Berber show) was cool. It was a nice bunch of people. But I’ve been on the
road with my band for four weeks and we are hot, hot, hot. We’re gonna burn
America with good vibrational information.
Q: What led you to leave East Berlin?
A: I grew up in an artist family. From the time I was a little tiny person,
I saw my mother performing in theater. My stepfather was the Bob Dylan of
East Germany. There were always artists and musicians in the house, visiting
from the West. The government kicked out my stepfather, so the whole family
was allowed to go. I was lucky. A lot of my friends weren't so lucky. They
had to stay.
Q: What was your reaction to the reunification of Germany?
A: I was on tour when I heard and I didn’t believe it. I thought, “What a
great joke!” Now I think the whole world has to do this thing: One love. One
love nation.
Q: Where is your home now?
A: I have a house on Ibiza. It’s the most beautiful area. I also have a
little place outside London. I’m going to rent something in L.A. soon, to
write songs. I’m going to record my next album in America. I’m actually
going to record two albums, one in English, one in German. I used to do most
of my albums in both languages. I’ve become an expert in translating my
favorite songs into German. Most recently, I translated some Ramones songs:
“Blitzkrieg Bop” and “We’re a Happy Family.” They turned into antiwar songs
when I translated them.
Q: Who inspires your unique vocal style?
A: I get it from everybody: gospel singers, Elvis, blues singers. . .I
started listening to rock and roll at 12 and never stopped. With a voice,
you can do so much, especially if you’re Nina Hagen.
Q: On your last recording, you did hard rock, electronic house music,
traditional blues tunes, some new-wave pop and the Indian tracks. What
accounts for the eclecticism?
A: I always liked to mingle and mix the different styles. I’m the universal
soup maker. Everything comes together - the music and the religion . . .
Buddhism, Christianity, accordion, didgeridoo, hip-hop, rock, reggae.
Q: Your image is always striking, but always changing. Why are you such a
chameleon?
A: It’s theater. I grew up watching my mother do “My Fair Lady.” I don’t
think of myself as a pop star. I think of myself as more of a mirror for the
audience. I’m Janis Joplin and Anita Berber and more. I’m like a
transvestite - you know, how they do impressions of different women. I own
30 wigs. It’s because I often shave my head like the holy people in India.
But I’m a ska skinhead, not a fascist.
Q: What inspired your songs about animal rights and pollution?
A: I have a son and daughter. I’m a mother, and a normal human being, so I
must do this. The whole world is upside down. We’re moving toward
destruction. Some people are fighting it, but there aren’t enough laws to
protect the environment. The animals need their rights. Everybody need their
rights. It’s all the same story.
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